[sht6131]

Busjack, on May 18 2009, 08:27 AM, said:

I thought you were referring to the box when you click a bus, but you mean the route progress, which is a new glitch. Saw similar with the 33:
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Also an old route:
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I looked at View Page Source, and while the original bgcolor is white. most of the window is generated with javascript, and I don't know how to debug that. However, some of the script is browser specific, i.e. if Safari or if Firefox.

However, it isn't just your computer.

P.S., for whoever found the supervisor variable in the url, which disappeared, it is set to false in the script.

Thanks busjack. I would think that this should be resolved. Also what is the supervisor variable and what is the url? Does it show run numbers?

[Busjack]

sht6131, on May 18 2009, 09:07 AM, said:

Thanks busjack. I would think that this should be resolved. Also what is the supervisor variable and what is the url? Does it show run numbers?

Someone, about a year ago found it, and essentially is showed run and badge numbers on the bus icon. I did the search, and the discussion starts about here.*

The url is the web address (and shown in the address pane in the browser; see the gray between the window control bar and the blue). There used to be something in it similar to s?=false, which you could change to s?=true, but shortly after the person posted it here, that part of the address was removed. I don't know if one can dummy up the address in a browser to bring it back (and probably have not remembered all of the details).

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*Also, looking back, it appears that it was you who asked how to do it then.

[sht6131]

Busjack, on May 18 2009, 09:30 AM, said:

Someone, about a year ago found it, and essentially is showed run and badge numbers on the bus icon. I did the search, and the discussion starts about here.*

The url is the web address (and shown in the address pane in the browser; see the gray between the window control bar and the blue). There used to be something in it similar to s?=false, which you could change to s?=true, but shortly after the person posted it here, that part of the address was removed. I don't know if one can dummy up the address in a browser to bring it back (and probably have not remembered all of the details).

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*Also, looking back, it appears that it was you who asked how to do it then.

You are right. It was me. I got confused trying to do it and gave up. I thought at the preset that there was another way of bringing up the site. Thanks again.

[Busjack]

sht6131, on May 18 2009, 09:57 AM, said:

You are right. It was me. I got confused trying to do it and gave up. I thought at the preset that there was another way of bringing up the site. Thanks again.

I had only mentioned that the javascript reflected the variable. While I can recognize javascript, I don't know how to dummy it up and whether that would work.

Anyway, the search for 4149 vs. 2029 becomes that much more difficult.

[T8H5307A]

Busjack, on May 18 2009, 08:27 AM, said:

Saw similar with the 33:
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So that's what I look like on the 33! (I had 1079 this morning)

[trainman8119]

Busjack, on May 18 2009, 10:10 AM, said:

Anyway, the search for 4149 vs. 2029 becomes that much more difficult.

If they are not here yet, I can just see this situation arise:

CTA5750 at the Tollway/Kennedy merge: and here they come, racing onto the Kennedy
4149 slightly in the lead, 2029 making some hay as they depart Cumberland....

and then Busjack downtown near Division Street:

....2029 is in the lead, wait it looks as 4149 may have broke apart, oops that is an
old NABI deadheading from NP to 103, no it is 4149 speeding up to win the race !!!!

and 2029 is declared the winner on a technicality because it got to its garage before 4149...but then 2029 is disqualified because CTA decided to move it 3 times as the execs screwed up again !!!

[Busjack]

trainman8119, on May 18 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

and then Busjack downtown near Division Street:

Nope, especially if 4149 is delivered directly to North Park, and 2029 shows up at 103rd, as expected. Maybe if it is delivered directly to C, but still would lose under those terms.

I meant virtually, anyway (since this is the BusTracker topic).

[Busjack]

T8H5307A, on May 18 2009, 11:14 AM, said:

So that's what I look like on the 33! (I had 1079 this morning)

If we had gotten the s=true option working, we would have known your badge number.

Also, so much for cta5555's statement that under 1082 would be moved out--at least hasn't happened yet!.

[pudgym29]

Is there a good possibility that CTA is delaying or holding back the last bus of each series in order to formally present them at a media event?

[Busjack]

BTW... it looks like the blue background problem has been fixed, as sht6131 projected.

(Note 4148 in this image, giving rise to the contest comment.)

[jacksone44]

pudgym29, on May 18 2009, 01:33 PM, said:

Is there a good possibility that CTA is delaying or holding back the last bus of each series in order to formally present them at a media event?

What would be the purpose of a media event for this?

[pudgym29]

Bus Tracker is supposed to help prevent situations like this (#65 Grand)

Last night at 9:50 pm, returning from the C.E.R.A. meeting, I waited 25 minutes for a southbound #54 Cicero bus at Montrose; and then there were three buses in eleven minutes. (I boarded the Flxible; and then espied two New Flyers northbound at Belle Plaine, & Irving Park.)
I hope this gets remedied soon.

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[pudgym29]

This is what you really do not want to glimpse when you check your route on Bus Tracker.

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[Busjack]

pudgym29, on Jul 3 2009, 07:21 PM, said:

This is what you really do not want to glimpse when you check your route on Bus Tracker.

pudgym29, on Jun 27 2009, 06:48 PM, said:

Bus Tracker is supposed to help prevent situations like this (#65 Grand)

Last night at 9:50 pm, returning from the C.E.R.A. meeting, I waited 25 minutes for a southbound #54 Cicero bus at Montrose; and then there were three buses in eleven minutes.

In all the cases you mentioned, they seem to be Chicago Garage. cf. 74th, where Miss RedEye said about 15 months ago that with their longer experience with BusTracker, they were able to fix these kind of problems.

Since supervision is out of garages, if something has to be done, the next step would be to contact the supervisors out of C.

Of course, our driver posters out of C could give us a better idea about this.

[pudgym29]

Here is the pertinent linage from "Chicago Surface Lines • An Illustrated History" by Alan R. Lind [© MCMLXXIV: ISBN 0-934732-01-9].

Page 176:
In addition to the scheduled short line cars, CSL turned back cars on its lines in emergencies to avoid flooded underpasses, reroute cars, restore normal headways, avoid major fires or accidents, etc. Even though it might not have any scheduled short line cars, a route always had crossovers strategically placed to reroute or turn back cars. Cars always carried on their destination signs a number of unscheduled terminals for emergency display.
More often than is now done, cars were pulled off one route to fill in service on another whose headways had been badly interrupted. For example, a 63rd Street PCC car would sometimes be sent down Stony Island, although PCC cars were never assigned to Stony Island.

[cta_44499_FG]

Busjack, on Jul 4 2009, 10:47 AM, said:

In all the cases you mentioned, they seem to be Chicago Garage. cf. 74th, where Miss RedEye said about 15 months ago that with their longer experience with BusTracker, they were able to fix these kind of problems.

Since supervision is out of garages, if something has to be done, the next step would be to contact the supervisors out of C.

Of course, our driver posters out of C could give us a better idea about this.

It is not a matter of what garage the route/supervisor is out of. It is a matter of where the bus is when the problem is intercepted. Supervisors DO have their home base garage, but rather or who solves the problem depends on the district (or K) the bus is in when it is addressed.

In other words, a supevisor at the 79th and Western terminal could instruct a bus to switch at the Brown Line (Ainslie/Western), same as a supervisor at Foster and Western (whom most likely would be from Forest Glen/North Park) could instuct a 49 to switch at Archer. The latter is unlikely, as he might choose to switch the bus somewhere on the north end and clear the problem early on. He might choose however to do nothing but advise other supervisors whom the route crosses into such district to better assess the progress of the route more further down or mid-route.

In many cases, a district might be uncovered for whatever reason...and another supevisor is covering two K's. This of course, may lead to problems lingering longer before anyone addresses them.

[Nabinut]

Not that it matters much to you Chicago guys but watching Bustracker yesterday, I was amazed to see that Bus #1000 was actually in service on the 29. I wasn't sure if that bus was only used for P/R trips or charters

[Busjack]

Nabinut, on Jul 10 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

Not that it matters much to you Chicago guys but watching Bustracker yesterday, I was amazed to see that Bus #1000 was actually in service on the 29. I wasn't sure if that bus was only used for P/R trips or charters

No, it is a regular bus, just like the other 2100.

In fact, 1002 got used for the PR trip when regular deliveries of the 1000s were first announced by da Mare, and someone else will tell you it can't be used for a charter.

Bus series here always start with 00.* I've mentioned earlier that L train series start with 01, but no one has ever explained the difference. There was also the discussion about white prototypes, but apparently 1000 was not one of those.

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*Hence why the last of the 1030 diesels is 2029.

BTW, this has been resolved and the winner is 2029:

Busjack, on May 10 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

With a furlong left, looks like we're nose to nose with regard to whether 2029 or 4149 is reported first, thus completing the respective order.

[Busjack]

cta_44499_FG, on Jul 10 2009, 01:56 AM, said:

It is not a matter of what garage the route/supervisor is out of. It is a matter of where the bus is when the problem is intercepted. Supervisors DO have their home base garage, but rather or who solves the problem depends on the district (or K) the bus is in when it is addressed. ...

Thanks for the clarification.

Thus, given that in the 54 example, 3 buses seem bunched somewhere in Austin, which district would be concerned? Or would it have been an issue that someone didn't space them out when they left Montrose and Cicero and they were in that clump down and coming back (i.e. might not even be at the 24th and Cicero terminal yet)?

And probably the most basic question: would a bunch like this set off an alarm on any supervisor's laptop?

[cta_44499_FG]

Busjack, on Jul 10 2009, 08:36 AM, said:

And probably the most basic question: would a bunch like this set off an alarm on any supervisor's laptop?

That I wouldn't know. Sorry.